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Iris and Ghost re-process

Started by Carole, Sep 26, 2013, 11:35:16

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Carole

I wasn't happy with my original process of this object done at Ollys and have now done a completely new re-stack and process and feel happy with this revision.

Details as before total 5h 10mins LRGB though I didn't use all the Lum data (forgot about the flipped subs), so it's actually 1 hour less 4h 10mins.

I had to use DSS to stack (with cosmetic reduction of HP) as Astroart was leaving lots of hot pixels.  

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MarkS

They're looking very good indeed Carole.  Especially with the hot pixels gone. Good star colours and the dust looks excellent without lots of noise.

I did notice that on the Iris that the stars look slightly elongated but I don't notice it on the Ghost.

Carole

Thanks Mark,

QuoteI did notice that on the Iris that the stars look slightly elongated but I don't notice it on the Ghost.
Yes I noticed that too Mark, the Ghost is from the centre of the image, but the Iris is to one side and so I guess there must have been a bit of coma, I did not notice this when I was processing first time around, guess I was too concerned about other problems, like the hot pixels.

Carole


Rocket Pooch

Was you using Olly's Tak FSQ, if so that flat as a pancake with no comma.  Or were you trying something else?

MarkS

Quote from: Rocket Pooch
Was you using Olly's Tak FSQ, if so that flat as a pancake with no comma. 

Oh no!!  Not another scope that's been squashed by a car?

Carole

QuoteOlly's Tak FSQ,
Yes I was, I've just examined the 4 corners of the luminance before full processing.  There is definitely some elongation in the bottom right of the image.  



Carole


Rocket Pooch


Carole

It was all Olly's kit.  It was his Atik11000.

Be glad of an explanation if any-one knows what the cause is.

Carole

MarkS

Quote from: Carole
Be glad of an explanation if any-one knows what the cause is.

My best guess is that there was a small amount of CCD tilt.

mickw

I wouldn't have expected Olly to have duff kit.

Carole did you assemble camera, scope etc. or did Olly set it up ? 

Possibly camera not sitting squarely to the scope.
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Carole

QuoteCarole did you assemble camera, scope etc. or did Olly set it up ? 
It was all set up by Olly. 

I think I am going to E Mail him and ask him what he thinks.

QuotePossibly camera not sitting squarely to the scope.
Could it be those screws that hold the camera onto the drawtube shoving it over slightly, but then surely it would have the opposite effect on the opposite side, and seems to me like every-one would have the same problem if this were the case.  Otherwise I can't see how a camera can not be sitting square to the scope.

Why don't they put 3 screws in so you can screw evenly from all directions.  They have a centering gadget for collimating Newtonians for exactly this reason. 

Carole

MarkS

Was a focal reducer being used?

Carole

QuoteWas a focal reducer being used?
I don't think so Mark, but I'll re-check with Olly who incidentally can't offer any explanation.  He asked me to check back with the original fits files in case it was something the software might have done, but it's on the original fits files too.

Carole

Carole

NOW THIS IS INTERESTING.

You may recall that in the first post of this thread I mentioned that I forgot to use the flipped luminance subs.
there is no such elongation in the flipped luminance subs nor the RGB subs, so why would it only appear on the pre-flipped luminance subs and only in one corner and not appear after the flip and not on any of the RGB subs? 

Luminance were all done the same evening, but RGB done over several evenings but can't remember if they were done were after the object passed the meridian, certainly some were as I definitely remember green being done VERY late. 

Could it possibly be the weight of the filterwheel having an effect only in certain positions? 

Carole





Rocket Pooch

I would have checked it at the start of each image, although its Olly's kit its still subject to the normal issues.