Orpington Astronomical Society

Astronomy => Astrophotography => Topic started by: JohnH on Apr 01, 2025, 19:02:11

Title: M51
Post by: JohnH on Apr 01, 2025, 19:02:11
A fairly wide field image of M51

(https://i.imgur.com/W4jihWE.jpeg)

Approximately 7 hours 30 mins of imaging.

Luminance HaO + R + G + B
Chrominance Ha + R + G + B

Sharpstar 15028 HNT 150mm f2.8
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro
Title: Re: M51
Post by: Carole on Apr 01, 2025, 21:19:56
With the genuine tidal tails, and without the miscreant tidal tails.  Well done for your perseverance.  Nice image.  I'd be inclined to do a separate Crop as well. 

Can you explain what Chrominance is compared to Luminance and why you need both?
Title: Re: M51
Post by: JohnH on Apr 02, 2025, 11:19:13
Thanks Carole,

My working theory is that simply using a Dual Band filter for Luminance would mean that some areas with detail might be completely missing because there would only be data from the narrow Ha and OIII bands. That is why I have added an arbitrary 25% of my RGB data.

For chrominance I use RGB data and a "Photometric Continuum" subtracted Ha layer. Again, my working theory is that Blue/Green data will be picked out by the OIII Luminance and the Ha/Red data will be picked out by the Ha Luminance.

For both layers I use a Masked Stretch followed by a Generalised Hyperbolic Stretch to pull as much detail as possible. I the use the Pixinsight Multiscale Linear Transform process to further sharpen the Luminance layer.

Starexterminator then gives me the subject layer and star only layer which I process separately in Affinity Photo 2 before recombining.

Obviously, some or most of this may be wrong or unnecessary  :lol: but I think that my images are considerably improved.
Title: Re: M51
Post by: JohnH on Apr 02, 2025, 11:29:57
(https://i.imgur.com/XNY94tC.png)

I have further cropped the image. I wanted to keep the small galaxy on the left.

(Edit) I have de-noised the tails.
Title: Re: M51
Post by: The Thing on Apr 03, 2025, 13:43:52
Very. Very. Nice.

Lovely detail and colours,
Title: Re: M51
Post by: Hugh on Apr 06, 2025, 18:05:07
Very nice John ~ the larger cropped image looks a bit like a jewelled brooch :D

Good to keep the smaller galaxy as well.

~ Hugh
Title: Re: M51
Post by: garrick on Apr 13, 2025, 08:33:51
Really nice image. Great colour and detail.

G