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Astronomy => Astrophotography => Topic started by: Rocket Pooch on Sep 09, 2004, 09:08:00

Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Sep 09, 2004, 09:08:00
Hi,

After seeing Pauls effort at DSC on M33 I thought I'd have a go.  So on the 29th August I did, and what a difficult tarket it is.

However, its taken me this long to create a flat frame and get the hang of the flat and dark subtraction from the raw images.  This is a stack of 42 of the 80 20 second images I took, I havent done the rest because I'm to lazy.


(http://www.jumpers4goalposts.org.uk/images/Astronomy/Galaxies/pinsmallsngb1.jpg)


[ This Message was edited by: csuddell on 2004-09-09 01:25 ]
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Greg on Sep 09, 2004, 18:41:00
...what do you mean lazy - I call it brilliant!! Excellent to see a little bit of competition among our astrophotographers.

Got up this morning at 5.27am to see Mercury. Bloddy trees - there always in the bloody way. Bloody tired now.
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Ian on Sep 10, 2004, 00:13:00
you only got up 10 minutes early Greg? Tut, tut.

One of these nights I'll get out, hopefully. I've still got my solar filter attached to my scope. That means it's not been used since the Transit :sad:
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Whitters on Sep 10, 2004, 04:46:00
Nice one Chris,
Go on get the rest of those images stacked up.
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: JohnP on Sep 10, 2004, 05:08:00
Hi Chris - Good image - What are the black shadows near some of the stars - is it alignment or processing issues?

John.
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Ian on Sep 10, 2004, 17:28:00
they look like artifacts of linear sharpening, bit like the "ears" you get from the standard Toucam.

Chris? you been playing or is it the camera?
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Sep 10, 2004, 19:03:00
There a known issue with the SAC8 and the 1004x board where there's no capacitor on the RF out is causes a shadow, presumable because its not tuned in properly :smile:
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Ian on Sep 10, 2004, 22:48:00
are you going to be putting one in then? You can borrow the blowtorch I use for by webcam mods if you like?
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Sep 11, 2004, 01:10:00
No chance, but I will on the new camera.
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Ian on Sep 13, 2004, 16:39:00
new camera? You a SAC shareholder?
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: JohnP on Sep 14, 2004, 18:24:00
Hi Ian,

Perhaps I can answer for Chris - We both bought a 1004 security camera a few weeks back & are in the process of trying to destroy them per Jon Groves modification! Hopefully, we will have a B&W camera as sensitive as the SAC but at less cost (assuming we are successful)

We will let you know how it goes & will of course post our 'first light' images ..... fingers crossed for a successful mod.


John
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rick on Sep 14, 2004, 18:56:00
What sort of camera is that? Digital, or does it put out standard video?
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Anonymous on Sep 14, 2004, 20:38:00
Hi Rick,

It gives out video so you need a video capture card for your laptop/ PC. The camera has a lux rating of .003

The link if you are interested is;

http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/board_camera_bw_low_light.htm

Cheers, John

PS - Be warned the modification is not easy - I thought the Toucam Pro was hard but that wasn't anything compared to this...
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rick on Sep 14, 2004, 22:14:00
What's the nature of the modification?
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: JohnP on Sep 14, 2004, 23:52:00
Hi Rick,

It sounds like you are keen yourself. The mod basically involves lifting pins & soldering wires/ cutting tracks to enable long exposure control of the camera from a PC. The are also a couple of external control boards to put together. The hardest part is trying to attach the wires to chips on the camera the pins are very, very , very small... It took me near on 2 hrs. to solder on one wire!

To give you a feel for the mod look here:

http://www.geocities.com/jgroveuk/ExViewMod.html

Hope this helps,

John
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rick on Sep 15, 2004, 00:37:00
I was more curious how a device like a video camera, which is pretty much set to produce exposures every 1/50 second, could be modified to allow longer exposures and then suitably controlled...

I am now suitably boggled. :wink:
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Sep 15, 2004, 05:45:00
Hi Rick,

One of this things I'm goign to try before taking a soldering iron to it is to try "off chip integration" this is where the software at the pc collects individual frames to make up and image.  It involves no soldering at all and shoud suffice for a guide cam.

http://www.qcuiag.co.uk/ have a look on the left side and there's a section about off chip integration, its worth a looky see.


John,

This is not the camera I was on about :smile:  I'm going to save my money for a 12bit 1/2" ccd :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: csuddell on 2004-09-14 21:54 ]
Title: Galaxy M33
Post by: JohnP on Sep 18, 2004, 17:09:00
Woops ! my mistake sorry - Didn't know you were saving for another camera - John