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Random Rambling Ruminations => PC Helpline => Topic started by: Fay on Jan 26, 2009, 19:31:07

Title: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2009, 19:31:07
I downloaded  the Firmware updater & latest Firmware to make sure that the cooler is coming on automatically in the Atik, as I had really a lot of hot pixels, which could mean that the cooler has not been coming on.

I had 1.4 version & it seemed ok but I downloaded the latest version 2.2.  I had "Runtime Error 53" come up, plus Maxim & Astroart cannot connect to the Atik camera now. When I tried to open camera in AA, message was"Invalid Handle". I don't know if I am selecting the wrong file for the updater to sort out.
I went into Artemis Diagnostics & message was "ensure camera has power & is connected to USB" which it was.

I have also had a lot of problems on the laptop & desktop, I am sure, in the beginning, it is since playing about with all these large Canon files. Very slow to shut down, error messages coming up about 6 times before I can shut it down etc etc on bothe computers.
I have read online that these problems are caused by runtime 53 error.

I would be very grateful if anyone can put me right, please.
I looked online at runtime 53 correction downloads, but don't like to make matters worse when I am not familiar with the problem.

Mac, I hoping you know the answers, I am sure you will.

Thanks
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Ian on Jan 26, 2009, 19:36:33
I get that on occasion with my art. On mine it means the camera isn't connected. If you're sure yours is, then I'd look at the drivers. Is there a driver update to go with the firmware update?

If there isn't I'd uninstall the Atik drivers and reinstall. An additional step for diagnosing bad drivers is if you have an "unknown device" with a yellow "?" in device manager (which you can find under system in the control panel). Unplug the camera and the "?" will disappear if it's the right one.

Not wanting to be a doomsayer, but worst case is that the update didn't work and it's fried the camera's firmware. There is the possibility of it having to go back to Atik for the update. Fingers crossed it won't.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2009, 20:25:57
Ian , what does fried the camera's firmware mean? Damaged camera?
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2009, 20:36:58
Ian, there is no yellow question mark in device manager
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: RobertM on Jan 26, 2009, 22:19:03
Fried the camera's firmware just means that the software that you updated the camera with is corrupt.  It's not catastrophic (at least not for my H9) and you should be able to repeat the firmware update to correct the problem.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2009, 22:47:35
Thanks Robert
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Ian on Jan 26, 2009, 22:58:45
If you're not getting the unknown device, the next thing to do is to plug the camera back in and see if any software can see it. You could look for it in device manager, but I don't know where it would be. Mine appears as a serial port under Ports (unsurprisingly) but mine's a bit long in the tooth now and they may have changed it. If the diagnostic software can't see it either then it may well be that the update failed.

As Robert says, there's a chance the update can be attempted again, if that's the problem. It's worth trying again.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 08:26:28
Ian, the Atik is showing in ports, but nothing else seems to see it. I think i will try & put it back to how it was, I have mislaid the original disc, at the moment. I did backup all files last week so can either use that or go to Artemis site, I think all is on there.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mike on Jan 27, 2009, 08:49:29
What you could try is a hardware uninstall. Uninstall all of teh software, the go to device manasger and remove the device. Reboot the PC, then go through the install routine as if it was a brand new device. See if that works.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 08:59:01
I just uninstalled & reinstalled via backup files. It did not work, When I opened Artemis Capture the computer kept making the bell sound repeatedly. It is the only disc I cannot find, I think it will need it. Unless I can do it from the Artemis site. I will try that. Other than that, if I need the reinstall disc, I will ask Chris.


I resaved the Artemis info onto a memory stick, in case,  the laptop said, "Delayed write fail" Device\Harddisk\DP(1)0-0+3, I am doomed, what does that mean? :cry:
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 09:40:20
There is a God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I deleted again, as nothing worked & then downloaded what I thought I should, from Artemis site. Did what I thought I had to do & all is well again. Making it all up, as usual, along the way.
Don't know if the cooler is working, perhaps you could suss that for me, Mike, on Thurday, if you have time.

I will now go & have a wash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: JohnP on Jan 27, 2009, 10:13:48
Fay - I did say be careful in one of my earlier postings.... Glad you got it sorted though.....! John



Fay - I think it is probably this... Looks like you also need to download some software that enables you to update the firmware. Goto this page & scroll down till you get to the 314L. Probably best to double check with Chris though I don't want to be responsible for screwing up your 314L....!!!!  John


http://www.perseu.pt/Atiknew/html/downloads.html
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 10:28:02
John, that is where I downloaded all from. I did another dark frame & it looked the same as the one before. Don't know how to check if cooler is on auto or not. Will ask Chris. At least I am back on track.
I wish God would show his colours a bit quicker!! :D
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Ian on Jan 27, 2009, 10:50:39
I'm glad you've got it working again Fay.  :lol:

Flashing firmware is just about the only task I do on computers that still gives me sweaty palms...
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 10:53:06
I thought all this downloading of driver s etc was ok. Is it risky to equipment if done wrong?

If you say, yes, I could have a serious delayed reaction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mike on Jan 27, 2009, 10:54:50
I think the cooler comes on automatically with Starlight cameras. I don't think you can turn it on or off.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mike on Jan 27, 2009, 10:56:39
Quote from: Ian on Jan 27, 2009, 10:50:39Flashing firmware is just about the only task I do on computers that still gives me sweaty palms...

I remember bricking my Compaq PDA once updating the firmware as the cat jumped on the cable and knocked it out mid-flash  :o
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: JohnP on Jan 27, 2009, 11:19:19
 
QuoteI thought all this downloading of driver s etc was ok. Is it risky to equipment if done wrong?


Fay - that's why I said.....      I don't want to be responsible for screwing up your 314L
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mac on Jan 27, 2009, 12:41:38
QuoteI thought all this downloading of driver s etc was ok. Is it risky to equipment if done wrong?



Fay - that's why I said.....      I don't want to be responsible for screwing up your 314L


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bricked (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bricked)
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: JohnP on Jan 27, 2009, 12:47:43
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

'Bricked' now that's a new technical term I have learnt today....
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 13:22:44
Oh crikey, another sleepless night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope I have not done anything else wrong.

Mac, while you are around, why does my desktop not shut down straight away & I have to end task about 10 times & no, I do not want to send error report, 10 times & hourglass sits around for a long time?

Laptop does this lately, as well



Fay
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mac on Jan 27, 2009, 16:39:40
well your desktop and or laptop should take no longer then about a min to shut down,
This is beacuse once you select shut down, it starts doing all its house keeping, by closing all the open files so that you dont have any data loss,

windows will normall wait for prohgrams to end, but if after a specific time they havent closed, it will pop up the not responding alert.

However, if you have to end task for specific programs, its normally because they have crashed, or theres a problem with them,
the causes are many and widespread, so its not normally that easy to say its one thing specifically.

If its a constant problem, with the same program, try reinstalling them, if that dosent cure it,
have a look at getting a file monitor from www.sysinternals.com (http://www.sysinternals.com) to monitor the program that is not responding,
it will tell you which files it is accessing and you shuld be able to work out which ones are causing the problems.

It is a common problem with windows operating system.

Mac.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2009, 16:47:10
Thanks for that Mac, I think the desktop needs a computer laxtive, to give it a clear out!!!!!!!!

I will be a bit more patient with it, when doing various things.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 28, 2009, 14:34:45
I came back from shopping, came back & desktop would not sign on, wheras it had been ok when I went out.
The "programme not responding" box named the following programs in succession, which I had to "end" a couple of times each.

ccSvcHst

IMApp.ex

DDE server window.

Does anyone recognise these, please?



Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 28, 2009, 14:59:01
I ran that program, you suggested, Mac. I seemed to have a lot of BUFFER OVERFLOW entries. Not that I understand what I am looking at. the IMApp.exe, is my mail program Incredimal.

Hope I do not have a virus.
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mac on Jan 28, 2009, 15:35:47
Fay im on paterinity leave from sunday for 3 weeks, i can pop over and take a look if you want.
we can sort or your pc problems if you want
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Fay on Jan 28, 2009, 15:40:57
Fantastic, Mac
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: JohnP on Jan 28, 2009, 15:49:54
QuoteFay im on paterinity leave from sunday for 3 weeks, i can pop over and take a look if you want.
we can sort or your pc problems if you want

Surely you're meant to be spending that time bonding with your new born & helping out the wife etc. etc. I don't suppose you planned paternity leave to coincide with DSC & Astrofest perchance???  :lol: :lol:

Only joking, John..
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mac on Jan 28, 2009, 17:43:54
QuoteI don't suppose you planned paternity leave to coincide with DSC & Astrofest perchance???

Err, Guily as charged :oops:  ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: I think there must be a PC virus going around!
Post by: Mike on Jan 28, 2009, 18:52:44
Quote from: Mac on Jan 28, 2009, 17:43:54Err, Guily as charged :oops:  ;)  :lol:

Good man !!   :)