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Astronomy => Astrophotography => Topic started by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 14:30:48

Title: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 14:30:48
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2024/2220743298_5c08222559_o.jpg)

Very windy, scattered clouds, last night, so was amazed I got something. I was hanging on to the cables, as they were moving so much.

This image was takem with WO ZS66, Ha filter, 0.8 Focal Reducer, guided with PHD. 16x 300 secs with SX MX7.

Could do with a bit more processing, but do not want to clip.



Fay

Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: JohnP on Jan 26, 2008, 14:48:35
very nice fay - cu managed to focus ok with new flattener...? need to add some rgb now.. :-) John
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 15:04:10
I had a nightmare to start with. Starting in the afternoon. I was told that the FR needed to be 55mm from the chip, & I was trying all combinations to get there, as mine was about 4 inches, I am not a metric person.
I rang Ian king's shop, & was advised that I may need to take the front off the SX & put a doubled ended male connection on to connect direct into the filter wheel, as the FR was on the other side.

I happened to have one & put it on, then to my horror I needed to be further out. The connection got stuck on the SX & even with metal grips could not budge it. Suddenly, God looked upon me, & it came off with great ease, don't know how. Put the nose piece back onto the SX, & was in anticipation of it not being correct in which case, I would not have known what to do. Anyway, it is a lot further away from the chip than 55mm, about 4", & after a lot of prayers,is fine.

I wanted to get it before 9pm as heavy cloud was predicted, needless to say it was 100% clear!! Today 98% cloud was predicted all day...........clear all day.
Thinking of doing Mars while it is around, but 100% cloud predicted tonight....but will it be?

Thanks John

Fay
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: MarkS on Jan 26, 2008, 15:35:18

Nice one Fay.  It's come out very well. 
What scope/camera did you use to do the guiding? 

Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 15:37:45
Webcam on an ED80, with PHD guiding. It was very gusty, so not bad considering.

Thanks Mark
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: mickw on Jan 26, 2008, 15:40:36
Nice one Fay.
No spikes ?  ;)
You were lucky to see any sky last night, tonight is looking worse.

Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 15:58:53
Thanks Mick, yes it does look like they are right with the weather tonight.
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Carole on Jan 26, 2008, 16:16:44
Excellent picture Fay, I have a long long way to go to catch up with you.

Carole
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 18:45:59
Thanks Carole, there will always be  hurdles to get over though!!
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Tom C on Jan 26, 2008, 19:46:03
Nice one! Another great photo Fay :)
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 26, 2008, 20:28:17
Thanks a lot Tom, we must be giving you a lot of idea's!
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Daniel on Jan 26, 2008, 20:38:33
Wow! incredible image, every attempt at capturing the horsehead nebula i've had so far has come up with nothing but stars!

would it be possible to see one of your single 300s exposures before stacking?
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: RobertM on Jan 26, 2008, 22:16:51
Well done Fay, another excellent image - it's not fun being out in those conditions.
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2008, 08:32:08
Yes, Daniel, I will sort one out.
Thanks a lot Robert, I did not think I would get anything.

Mick, I am tempted to do a really massive spike!!
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2008, 09:34:25
Daniel, here is one 300 sec frame

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2222048549_4211b570e7_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Mike on Jan 27, 2008, 09:45:34
Nice image Fay.

You can see from the raw that the focus was slightly off and that the wind was affecting your guiding, but an excellent image nonetheless.
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2008, 10:20:17
Thanks a lot, Mike. I did have to discard a couple of images, but not bad considering it was such bad conditions.
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Tony G on Jan 27, 2008, 12:53:02
Good going Fay,
A lovely image again, something I'd be well happy with ;).
Keep up the good imaging and wrap up warm.

Tony G

PS camera batteries reordered, first lot lost in post.
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2008, 13:18:04
Thanks Tony. No worries about batteries, they will arrive some day!
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: MarkS on Jan 27, 2008, 14:15:11

Fay,

That single frame looks very good.  Were you imaging from somewhere dark?  Or using light pollution filter?  Or have you subtracted the light pollution from it?

Mark
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Carole on Jan 27, 2008, 14:58:25
A good example of the benefits of stacking.  Maybe could be used at a future "talk" on Astro-imaging.

Carole
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Daniel on Jan 27, 2008, 15:35:39
Fay, thanks for that, it is indeed a great example of stacking, no more lazy single exposures for me! was it the stacking that got rid of the grainyness, or was that some extra post processing?

Daniel
:O)
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: Fay on Jan 27, 2008, 15:48:58
Yes I use a light pollution filter. Also I used an Ha filter.
The image becomes clearer when it's stretched & processed, I use Photoshop. Captured with AstroArt.

Going to try Mars tonight. Taking a chance the sky will be reasonable. If it is not, there is not so much equipment to put away, just using the webcam. 
Title: Re: Horsehead & Flame Nebulae
Post by: JohnP on Jan 27, 2008, 16:17:29
QuoteFay, thanks for that, it is indeed a great example of stacking, no more lazy single exposures for me! was it the stacking that got rid of the grainyness, or was that some extra post processing?

Daniel - When you stack you increase the signal to Noise ration (SNR) by the square root of the number of images you stack. So if for example you stack 100 frames SNR improves by a factor of 10.

John.