Orpington Astronomical Society

Astronomy => Astrophotography => Topic started by: MarkS on Nov 09, 2009, 06:39:55

Title: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 09, 2009, 06:39:55

IC1805 - this is first light for my peltier cooled Canon taken under last night's (Sunday 8 Nov) murky sky.

16 x 10minutes at ISO 800.  Canon EOS 350D on ED80 with 0.8x focal reducer and using Astronomik 12nm Ha clip filter. This gives a focal ratio of F6 and a focal length of 480mm.  Ambient temperature was around 2C and the CCD was cooled to around -17C.

I very quickly processes the data last night.  It needs re-processing to remove the residual amp glow in the extreme top and bottom right corners.

(http://gallery.orpington-astronomy.org.uk/albums/userpics/10046/normal_heart08112009.jpg)

Here is the full frame image, slightly cropped and 2x2 binned:

http://gallery.orpington-astronomy.org.uk/albums/userpics/10046/heart08112009.jpg

Mark
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Fay on Nov 09, 2009, 08:36:41
Well mark, you would say it was taken with a dedicated ccd camera. Fantastic result. Did you desaturate in PS? Is that a 2" FR?

If you are going to do it as a business, please put me on the list!!!!
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 09, 2009, 08:42:18
Quote from: Fay
Did you desaturate in PS? Is that a 2" FR?

I applied dynamic range compression in IRIS.

The FR is the William Optics MkII.

Mark
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: RobertM on Nov 09, 2009, 08:53:07
That's really fantastic result Mark.  There's excellent detail in the nebula, good depth and focus is spot on.  Parts of the nebula are saturated as are are quite a number of stars but it's also highlighted some big problems with my processing which is good and focusing which I'll have to work on.

It was definitely worth while doing that peltier mod, I wonder whether a cooled 450d would be any improvement!

Dynamic range compression - interesting, so that's how you kept so much detail.  You'll have to show me sometime.

Robert  
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 09, 2009, 09:12:55

Thanks for the comments Robert.   I was certainly quite pleased with this result.   

The saturation of the nebula and stars was something I missed when doing the quick processing - the raw data is fine - I just need to process a bit more carefully.

Mark
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Daniel on Nov 09, 2009, 14:11:02
Fantastic First light Mark, as Robert said, the amount of dynamic range you retained there is great, and very smooth for only 16 subs.

Daniel
:O)
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Mike on Nov 09, 2009, 14:21:06
Great image Mark. But... Why in B&W?
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 09, 2009, 15:01:17
Quote from: Mike
Great image Mark. But... Why in B&W?

To make a sensible test, I wanted to get the background signal very low, so I either had to go somewhere very dark or go narrowband (which is what I did with an H-alpha filter).

It was an interesting experiment.  It shows that, with cooling, narrowband becomes quite feasible with a DSLR.

The B&W image is just the red channel - the green and blue channels contain hardly any data except for a few (very dim) stars.
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Mac on Nov 09, 2009, 15:18:58
very nice image.
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Whitters on Nov 10, 2009, 08:58:25
Lovely image Mark, focusing is spot on, fantastic detail.
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: JohnP on Nov 10, 2009, 09:31:26
Mark - Very nice indeed you must be well chuffed with that for a first light after all your hard work. Like others say compares very well with a dedicated astro CCD. Lovely FOV but slight distortion at edges (particularly top left) - I guess that's down to spacings etc. (it is very minor though) Response from camera seems great and noise very low for such limited exposure...

Look forward to more
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 10, 2009, 13:04:55
You've got eagle eyes John!

The CCD is not parallel to the image plane:  bottom right the stars have radial "smears" and top left they are tangential.  I need to investigate the cause and fix it.

Mark
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: mickw on Nov 10, 2009, 13:26:29
QuoteCCD is not parallel to the image plane

Some vandal's probably jammed a lump of copper pipe behind it  :roll:
I'll get my angle grinder  :lol:
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Tony G on Nov 10, 2009, 13:35:28
Great image Mark, and the ISS is nowhere to be seen.  ;)

Was the additional weight of the cooler a problem or not?

Tony G
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 12, 2009, 06:41:50
Re-processed here:
http://www.markshelley.co.uk/Astronomy/2009/heart_08112009v2.jpg

Central stars still look burnt out.  I seem to be unable to preserve detail both in the nebula and in those central stars - may end up having to layer them in PS.

Mark
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: The Thing on Nov 12, 2009, 11:56:16
You're too critical. It's wonderful.

I have just the right piece of copper pipe and a big hammer in the garage just waiting to for me get on the peltier 350D bandwagon!
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: MarkS on Nov 12, 2009, 12:41:34
Quote from: Dunc
You're too critical.

Imagers are often their own worst critics!
Title: Re: Peltier-cooled Canon: first light.
Post by: Fay on Nov 12, 2009, 13:00:54
You are very picky Mark, but as you say, perhaps layers if you want to fine tune central stars