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Astronomy => Telescopes Etcetera.... => Topic started by: Kenny on Jan 26, 2014, 17:48:17

Title: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kenny on Jan 26, 2014, 17:48:17
I've got two Newtonian telescopes.

I'm ashamed to say, neither of the two scopes have ever been collimated in the time (7+ years) that I've owned them.  :oops:

I've watched the best that YouTube has to offer and am willing to give this a go now. Two questions come to mind, one simple, one scary:

Gentle, supportive guidance appreciated.

:-?
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kylee on Jan 26, 2014, 19:28:27
Hi Kenny

I was really terrified of doing this but since I purchased my laser collimator it's really easy. Don't be scared....I can collimate my scope in minutes now.

I'll check out my collimator and let you know what brand it is   :D

Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kylee on Jan 26, 2014, 19:30:49
You definitely need the dot to be sure you are truly central  :-?
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: MarkH on Jan 26, 2014, 19:43:23
I have the same phobia, even though I've had it less than a year. It's never had a bash so it should be ok. But from an engineers point of veiw if it ain't broke don't fix it. If I ever do have a go I will buy aset of bobs knobs first, I'm not getting an allen key anywhere near that lens.
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: MarkH on Jan 26, 2014, 19:46:39
Aparently it's easy to collimate with a three aparture focusing mask........cue Duncan :lol:
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Carole on Jan 26, 2014, 19:51:26
This is a really good website and explains step by step.  If you don't have to collimate the 2ndry it's not too difficult, and even if you do it explains all that too.

http://www.astro-baby.com/collimation/astro%20babys%20collimation%20guide.htm

Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kylee on Jan 27, 2014, 17:52:28
I can show you if you have your kit available at some point.  :D

If you are going tomoz to the pub I'll bring my collimator for you to look at?

Kylee
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: The Thing on Jan 27, 2014, 19:05:01
BTW for those who don't know MarkH has a SCT which is a different beast to collimating a Newt. MarkH DO NOT BUY A LASER COLLIMATOR!, don't work with SCTs/
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kylee on Jan 27, 2014, 19:53:25
My replies were for Kenny as he started the thread and has a couple of Newtonians. Wasn't advising Mark H on his collimation techniques with his scopes.

Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Mac on Jan 27, 2014, 23:41:25

QuoteBTW for those who don't know MarkH has a SCT which is a different beast to collimating a Newt. MarkH DO NOT BUY A LASER COLLIMATOR!, don't work with SCTs/

Not any more.  ;)

http://www.hotechusa.com/category-s/23.htm (http://www.hotechusa.com/category-s/23.htm)

Mac.
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Mike on Jan 27, 2014, 23:46:10
Holy cow did you see the price?!?!  :o
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: RobertM on Jan 28, 2014, 17:54:16
Collimation... If it were only that simple to get it right...

The trouble with using a laser is that there are actually many possible positions of the primary/secondary that make the scope look like it's collimated.  To do it properly it's a bit more complicated depending on how fussy you are but if you're not then a simple primary/secondary tween may well be all that's required.  I would also strongly advise getting a Cheshire as well, they are quite cheep and show more than a cheap laser can as well as giving you a method of double checking.

Here is a good link to getting it right courtesy of Astronomy shed http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-fl9SEYHw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dzd-fl9SEYHw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-fl9SEYHw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dzd-fl9SEYHw)

HTH
Robert

Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: The Thing on Jan 29, 2014, 16:45:20
Quote from: Mike on Jan 27, 2014, 23:46:10
Holy cow did you see the price?!?!  :o
That's why I do it myyyyy waaaayyyyyy :) (all togther now...) (http://www.dewityourself.co.uk/sct-collimation.html)
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: MarkH on Jan 29, 2014, 19:01:08
Quote from: The Thing on Jan 29, 2014, 16:45:20
Quote from: Mike on Jan 27, 2014, 23:46:10
Holy cow did you see the price?!?!  :o
That's why I do it myyyyy waaaayyyyyy :) (all togther now...) (http://www.dewityourself.co.uk/sct-collimation.html)

:lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Collimation phobia
Post by: Kenny on Feb 01, 2014, 13:59:18
Quote from: RobertM on Jan 28, 2014, 17:54:16
Here is a good link to getting it right courtesy of Astronomy shed http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-fl9SEYHw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dzd-fl9SEYHw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-fl9SEYHw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dzd-fl9SEYHw)

Astronomy Shed was the series I was referring to when I said "the best of YouTube". He's a bit anal about his collimation (that's not a euphemism) but it is an excellent guide.