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Title: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 02, 2013, 08:56:00
So who is going this weekend? The weather forecast is looking quite promising.

I've sent an email to Jackie at Rother Valley to ask about the state of the field and our usual corner.

Mike

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 02, 2013, 09:40:27

I'll be coming if it's Rother Valley - it'll allow me to pop home and continue work on Dee's shed.

Ground conditions at home are much firmer now so I think it is also very likely RV is open.

Mark
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 02, 2013, 09:52:02
OK it is definitely Rother Valley. Here is Jackie's reply:-

Dear Mike,

Yes we have plenty of space for the weekend. The condition of the field is fine, we had caravans and motorhomes over Easter Weekend without any problems.

I will save you pitches 12 onwards.

I won't be here myself and we have new Wardens and a new Reception so please let everyone know that they must stop when they enter the site and make themselves known to the new Wardens - Phil & Lindy.

Many thanks

Jackie
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 02, 2013, 11:54:00
Petra and I will be there. It's been too long since the last one.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 02, 2013, 13:42:16
I would like to come, but as I got absolutely perished last night being outside for a few hours I don't think I can face it unless it warms up a fair bit before the end of the week.

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 03, 2013, 08:13:44

Forecast looking excellent  8)

Friday night clear.
Sunny all day Saturday with little wind and a few degrees warmer than of late.
Saturday night mainly clear.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JonH on Apr 03, 2013, 09:53:17
There is a slim chance I might be able to make this weekend too!  :o
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 03, 2013, 10:26:25
i wont be going as will not have enough time to recover for Kelling. if it was a nice weekend & a decent attendance, i may pop down for saturday
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: The Thing on Apr 03, 2013, 19:08:21
I'm trying to get over a nasty cough (2nd week) so unless a miracle happens and it fixes itself I won't be going :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 03, 2013, 19:11:00
oh dear hope you get better Duncan. you have to look after that chest of yours
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 04, 2013, 00:15:19
Quote from: The Thing
I'm trying to get over a nasty cough (2nd week) so unless a miracle happens and it fixes itself I won't be going :(

Shame :-(   
We'll miss you.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 04, 2013, 00:18:18
Quote from: Fay
i wont be going as will not have enough time to recover for Kelling. if it was a nice weekend & a decent attendance, i may pop down for saturday

What do you mean "time to recover"?  You mean you won't have time to process all the excellent data from 2 clear nights in time to go to a wet and windy Kelling?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mac on Apr 04, 2013, 16:39:04
Typical,

Having worked every weekend for the last two years, I finally managed to get the last few off, as weve finished
our big projects at work.  :cheesy:

I was looking forward to this weekends DSC  :P

Im now working Fri Sat and sunday,  :(
so I wont be able to make it.

I've also managed to get Conjunctivitis  8) so that would have probably scuppered me anyway.

Mac.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 04, 2013, 16:51:14
QuoteI've also managed to get Conjunctivitis   so that would have probably scuppered me anyway.

But only if actually wanted to see something  :roll:

Bummer  :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mac on Apr 04, 2013, 16:57:40
QuoteBut only if actually wanted to see something

(http://www.reformparliament.co.uk/images/laughing-horse.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 04, 2013, 19:20:43
Quote from: MarkS on Apr 04, 2013, 00:18:18
Quote from: Fay
i wont be going as will not have enough time to recover for Kelling. if it was a nice weekend & a decent attendance, i may pop down for saturday

What do you mean "time to recover"?  You mean you won't have time to process all the excellent data from 2 clear nights in time to go to a wet and windy Kelling?

Exactly.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 04, 2013, 19:25:57
it will be a big enough trial going to Kelling if the weather is bad. I have to get my strength up. of to Colchester tomorrow to get the heater mended on the car.

it is freezing in there. you have to take the whole dashboard off to do it properly, which would cost around £1,500, by a garage,  but this place will do it thru a cut in the glove compartment. we were going to try ourselves, but could make a wrong cut!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 04, 2013, 19:49:10
Colchester ?
Blimey is there nothing local that can do a repair - Time to stop using Jeep dealers or sell the pile of poo to me for £1000  ;)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 04, 2013, 20:33:41

I've got all my gear ready. 
Really looking forward to tomorrow. 
It's been far too long since the last one.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 04, 2013, 20:46:54
I'll do it for £500 Fay!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 04, 2013, 20:58:42
THe garage we have always used has now shut down. the nearest is in Sydenham & they seem unreliable. although the only one to rely on for services .

cant buy another jeep. Some garages can do certain things but dont have the equipment or stock to do all of them. the replacement of the doors in the heater system will be around £200. i dont want to be driving to Kelling with no heater & if Matt had had a go, he could have cut something wrong or not been able to do it, i just need it working for next week.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 04, 2013, 21:09:16
So I can't have it for £1000 then  :(

Still sounds like you're being conned though  :-?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 04, 2013, 22:04:09
Well he sounds a very nice man............. :o
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 04, 2013, 22:43:00
Quote from: Fay on Apr 04, 2013, 22:04:09
Well he sounds a very nice man............. :o

Apparently Ted Bundy sounded like a very nice man.............to the :police: after he was caught. :roll:

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 00:02:53
Quote from: MarkS on Apr 04, 2013, 20:33:41

I've got all my gear ready. 
Really looking forward to tomorrow. 
It's been far too long since the last one.

Me too. Agreed.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 05, 2013, 00:32:09
I hope to arrive around 7:30pm
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JonH on Apr 05, 2013, 00:40:33
Alas, forgot I am supposed to be spending this weekend in Brighton so won't be able to make it after all.  :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 05, 2013, 08:06:00
Weather looking hopeful for imaging.

Comet Panstarrs looking very photogenic next to Andromeda Galaxy.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 11:39:25
I'm going to do my best to get down before sunset. Depends when I can get out of work but hopefully before 7pm.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 12:05:29
I emailed Jackie this morning with an update on the condition of the field. I have reveived this reply...

Hi Mike

We have had continual rain through the night and and this morning.
We have just been up to inspect the field,and it is slowly deteriorating due to the weather


So, should we change the venue to Blacklands or stick it out?

Mike

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 12:13:43
OK Rother Valley is ruled out...

At this moment in time i would suggest that it is not suitable, maybe check again in a few hours.
It is very wet at the moment, and is still pouring down.


I will get in touch with Leon at Blacklands.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 05, 2013, 12:30:12
What a pain!

But I'm wondering if we would actually get to see the comet at Blacklands because I'm particularly interested in giving the comet a go.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 05, 2013, 12:35:07
The ground is pretty hard around our way..
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 12:42:17
Mark - It is dead NW and pretty low down so the line of trees at Rother would probably block it out as they are dead NW from our corner. At Blacklands there will be a bit more light pollution but the view to the NW will be better if we camp up near the gate where the hook-ups are.

Chris - Rother Valley obviously had totally different weather than us. It's bone dry up here in The City too.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 05, 2013, 12:54:53
Well it was snowing when I left this morning, but it wont settle.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 05, 2013, 12:59:46
Looks like its Blacklands then.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 13:02:30
Only if you're sure Mark as it's a long drive for you to Blacklands.

We can always reschedule if you don't want to go.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 05, 2013, 13:56:16
I'm fine with Blacklands but I'll arrive a bit later.

See you there.

Mark
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 14:03:22
Ok see you there.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Jim on Apr 05, 2013, 14:44:27
Hi, planning to come as well. see you all down there.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 05, 2013, 14:49:24
I'll probably come over and camp and have a glass of the watery stuff
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 15:52:15
Whoever gets there first can you pitch your tent on the right hand side by the fence as you enter the field please. Tent on one side of the fence and your car on the other. There are hook-ups along that side. If we camp near the toilet block as normal we won't get a good view of the comet. I'm presuming at this time of year it will be empty anyway.



Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Jim on Apr 05, 2013, 17:48:01
OK I'm here and camped and guess what; its cloudy, cold and blowing a hooley! :!

But I have whiskey.....
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 05, 2013, 17:49:08
Gosh Jim, you already there!!! you keep warm!!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 05, 2013, 20:32:56
Well, how is it looking down there at the moment?

Tony G

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Jim on Apr 05, 2013, 21:11:29
Well still cloudy but hey, a pot noodle, ham sandwich and glass of wine so bliss!
:D
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 05, 2013, 21:42:14
hope the bungalow searchlight does not upset you
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 05, 2013, 22:31:32
Fay, Leon has built an extension onto the side of the bungalow that blocks out the light now.

There are 5 of us here at the moment and it is a clear sky. I'm trying to do M81/82 but the guiding is all over the place. Jim is still trying to align his finder scope. Mark is in the tent with our special guest chatting.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 05, 2013, 23:31:51
Special Guest.

Who may that be?????????

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 10:18:58
Quote from: Tony G on Apr 05, 2013, 23:31:51
Special Guest.

Who may that be?????????

Tony G

It's all gone very quiet - It wasn't Ted Bundy was it ?  :o  :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JohnP on Apr 06, 2013, 10:58:10
ummm back from the dead....
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 11:11:10
We are all still alive thanks. Despite the temperature dropping to -6° in the night. Our special guest nearly froze to death but Jim was OK as he had both a heater on and an electric blanket.

Nice warm sunny day now and the sausages and bacon are sizzling in the pan.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 06, 2013, 11:14:40
-6C last night.  My water container froze.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 11:42:13
Mystery guest is not Patrick Moore, is it?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 11:54:40
I'm shivering just thinking about -6

I think I'll just sit by the fire  :(

Any imaging done ?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 12:00:20
Mystery guest is not Patrick Moore. They are slightly more alive than that.

I didn't get much imaging done as the gusts of wind were putting huge spikes in my guiding graph on a regular basis. I think Jim had a bit more success after his epic alignment process. Our special guest spent most of the night on some kind of epic sausage cooking session and Mark didn't bother as he turned up late and could see how windy it was.

Hopefully the wind will die down tonight as another clear night is forecast.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 12:02:24
good that you keep us up to date Mike
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 06, 2013, 12:30:51
Well come on then. Is the special guest John P or some-one else?

Glad I didn't come at -6. 

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JohnP on Apr 06, 2013, 12:43:31
Well I ain't special so def not me....
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 12:46:09
I'm afraid our special guest wishes to remain anonymous so the only way you can find out who they are is to pop on down and pay them a visit. They are happy to do autographs.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 12:51:22
is he good looking and worth coming down for ;)??
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JohnP on Apr 06, 2013, 12:55:46
I told you Fay I am not there....
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 13:41:04
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:glad you told me John, could have been a wasted journey
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 06, 2013, 13:59:43
-6c ha welcome to my world, we walked home form the annual meeting in the village last night it was cold, but not that cold.

Tonight is forecast for 5mph winds no gusts and clear, currently humidity is 49% which is not bad.

I'll pop over later.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 06, 2013, 14:16:04
If the mystery guest is Brian Cox, I'm on my way!!!!

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 06, 2013, 14:33:48
Warm and sunny and Jim and myself have just got through 2 bottles of wine.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 14:37:18
lot of rubbish being spoken already then!!!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 06, 2013, 14:39:22
Quote from: Carole on Apr 06, 2013, 14:16:04
If the mystery guest is Brian Cox, I'm on my way!!!!

Carole

Brian's What!!!!! :o

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 15:03:37
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 06, 2013, 16:58:55
3rd bottle gone.  Ameretto started.  Sky completely clear.  Huge array of equipment readied for comet.

6 mounts prepared for action!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: The Thing on Apr 06, 2013, 17:28:05
What a weekend to be ill :( Makes me sick.
Three bottles and amaretto, makes you sick! Maybe there's some justice to come later - could be the vomit comet!

Scopes in the garden ready to record the skyglow...
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 17:54:14
just put the scope to where the comet will be, around sunset,  was going to get onto the garage roof, with tripod, but (VERB) oak tree is too large!!!!!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 06, 2013, 17:56:47
Quotewas going to get onto the garage roof, with tripod
Blimey Fay. 

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 18:14:44
I was going to sit on the patio with a beer, but the comet's getting boring now  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 18:28:25
Chris and his son have just turned up.

We are all set up and ready to go...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WI4lzP-IarM/UWBU-gTVTTI/AAAAAAAANqI/grpuVgNZXRI/s679/20130406_180049.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 18:39:11
Good luck everyone, It's looking very good for tonight
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 06, 2013, 19:33:14
4th bottle of wine and  Ameretto disappearing.  Pastis and Scotch in reserve.  Wind has died and sky looking fabulous.  6 tracking mounts and 2 fixed tripods at the ready.  Even the mystery guest is ready for visual observations.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 20:05:09
Special guest. He's special. Very special.

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 20:07:20
On garage roof with canon just in case I can see comet
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: The Thing on Apr 06, 2013, 20:08:41
Quote from: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 20:05:09
Special guest. He's special. Very special.
Wot. Like Special Brew?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 06, 2013, 21:15:43
Yay! Found the comet.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KS_jSK9qAM0/UWCCJOf6rQI/AAAAAAAANq4/qKDL-MDr4Mg/s768/comet.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 21:32:18
Woohoo

Well done  :D
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 06, 2013, 21:43:13
Well Done!!!

And you could not pick a better night.
How many others managed to capture it.
With Marks luck, he'll get an image of the comet with the ISS passing it, with his lucky camera, and that's after 4 bottles of wine and the Ameretto......... ;)

North Downs in my way :!
I want Micks fields.........

Tony G :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 21:58:51
Great Mike!!!

it was just out of view from my roof! what equipment etc etc etc
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 06, 2013, 22:00:23
QuoteNorth Downs in my way
I want Micks fields........

Tra-la-la

I felt obliged to have a quick peek with the bins,  Comet, Andromeda, Pleiades, Orion, Jupiter etc.
Would have stayed out but fancied a beer  :lol:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 06, 2013, 22:21:58
QuoteOn garage roof with canon
Oh Fay, that did give me a laugh, when I first read it, for a moment I thought you were on the roof with a cannon.  I thought, "what the......." and then the penny dropped.

Well done Mike.

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 06, 2013, 22:34:14
had enough trouble getting myself out  the window about a cannon. nearly damaged for life on the window catch   :x
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 06, 2013, 23:46:26
Now almost midnight.  -4C and too cold to light gas for hot dogs  :cry:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 07, 2013, 00:03:57
That's a bummer.  No-one got an electric cooker down there?

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 07, 2013, 00:06:44
Problem sorted.  Special guest put gas cylinder next to fire to warm it up.    :radiation:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 07, 2013, 00:10:04
Hot dogs now in orbit !!!

[Joke]
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 00:12:30
what a good  idea. i thought only i came up with plans like that  :o
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 00:15:03
I think the special guest should get into one of your sleeping bags with you, in case he freezes to death tonight!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 07, 2013, 07:57:32
Quote from: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 00:15:03
I think the special guest should get into one of your sleeping bags with you, in case he freezes to death tonight!

Fay,

I popped down there yesterday and you do not want that special guest in your sleeping bag, or I would not anyway.

Was nice and chilly around here last night, I wonder if they are all cold?

Chris
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 09:01:48
how many got the comet?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 07, 2013, 10:01:54
If this is some-one who wishes to stay anonymous and is very special and gives out autographs, I am wondering whether it is some-one from Sky at Night, as the new team are talking about getting involved with amateurs and their astronomical activities. 

I hope we are going to be enlightened once the weekend is over, the suspense is killing me.

Either that or you're pulling our legs.  :!

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 07, 2013, 10:15:16
Was -7.5C last night.  Colder than the infamous DSC at Stairs Farm.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 10:17:49
OMG are you all thawed out?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Carole on Apr 07, 2013, 10:30:45
QuoteWas -7.5C last night.
OMG, I am glad I didn't come.

Did you all get some good imaging time, it was clear here all night except for a small amount of passing cloud just before mightnight which didn't last long?

Was up until 3am.

Carole
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 07, 2013, 10:50:24
Thanks Mike, that's fantastic !

How long is he in the country ?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: The Thing on Apr 07, 2013, 11:21:46
-7.5C! Something wrong with my thermometer as it said +3C here :roll:

Glad I wasn't there or I would have iced lung or some such this morning :unwell:. Hot Dogs would have been welcome though - of course if I'd made it we'd have been able to use my electric hob, probably to sit round trying to warm up!

The skies were very transparent in Beckenham so I have some subs to process at last, how did imaging go last night? Mike comet image looks great and I'm guessing Mark got some as well.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 07, 2013, 14:04:48
Is he Spartacus!!!! :-?

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mac on Apr 07, 2013, 15:54:15
No. Im Spartacus.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 07, 2013, 16:26:45
Well you all missed a great weekend. Great skies and it was gorgeous and warm today.

I hope our special guest also enjoyed it.


Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Jim on Apr 07, 2013, 17:50:49
Yes a great weekend. My attempt at the comet.
4 x 2 min subs CCD CLS filter. Unguided.



(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8627516755_c359422b25_b.jpg)[/url]
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on Apr 07, 2013, 18:40:48
excellent Jim, unguided too!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 07, 2013, 19:11:30
Well done Jim great image, and you can say that you seen the comet, unlike some. :cry:
I see in the top left hand corner a satellite passing..........did Mark get the ISS in the same frame?  ;)

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Rocket Pooch on Apr 07, 2013, 19:32:36
Well done team, and I'm glad you have now seen how wrong the forecasts are around here, they are all based on Horsham not little old campsite.  It's been really cold here for 3 months now, I can only guess what my heating bill is :-)

Jim, yay comet!
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: JohnP on Apr 07, 2013, 19:52:17
Excellent Jim & Mike on capturing comet - hopefully some other images to - I look forward to seeing them - John
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: The Thing on Apr 07, 2013, 20:32:28
Excellent comet Jim, you must be really chuffed. Mike's isn't bad either. Was any other imaging managed after all that wine and guest entertaining?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 07, 2013, 22:28:55
Cracking image Jim and far better than the weird looking thing on APOD
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 08, 2013, 06:43:26

Really good image Jim!!  It has come out really well!

The background subtraction can't have been easy because the sky was relatively bright down where the comet was.

Mark
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Jim on Apr 08, 2013, 08:11:34
Thanks everyone. I was lucky in that I had spent hours the previous night getting a good polar alignment so I was able to lock onto it straight away. I did get some colour data but can't seem to process it; I think because the comet is moving relative to the stars and each channel was taken together so they are some minutes apart. I think you probably need to guide on the comet itself and maybe use a one shot colour camera to get a good result. I think using the CLS filter helped the background.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: julian on Apr 08, 2013, 15:12:01
Very nice image Jim

julian
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: RobertM on Apr 08, 2013, 20:32:20
Well done Mike and Jim, two decent images of the comet at last (apologies for anyone's image I may have missed :oops:).

Jim, I don't think I've seen a better image of this comet, it a really good  capture.

Robert
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 08, 2013, 20:40:50
Processed my image of the comet. It is very noisy as I completely forgot to do darks and I also had the ISO setting at 6400. DOH!.

7 x 30 second exposures with Nikon D7000. Guided on the comet head.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MIGwTb_jFa4/UWMctnYtRwI/AAAAAAAANsU/8tJE6nNc-2M/s768/Comet.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: RobertM on Apr 08, 2013, 21:30:05
Very nice that.

Quote from: Mike on Apr 08, 2013, 20:40:50
Processed my image of the comet. It is very noisy as I completely forgot to do darks and I also had the ISO setting at 6400. DOH!.

Well I don't think you'll be the only one, I'm sure most of us will be a bit rusty when we finally start imaging again !

Robert
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 08, 2013, 21:46:04
Quote from: RobertM on Apr 08, 2013, 21:30:05
Well I don't think you'll be the only one, I'm sure most of us will be a bit rusty when we finally start imaging again !

Ouch!   :boom:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: julian on Apr 09, 2013, 00:33:40
Very nice image Mike

julian
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 09, 2013, 05:36:30

Beautiful image Mike!

Don't worry about the ISO 6400 - the high ISO won't add noise to the image - it will just restrict the dynamic range and dynamic range is not so essential in this particular image.  The only thing likely to saturate is the comet's head.

You said you guided on the comet's head - did you notice any movement against the star background at that scale?

I haven't had a chance to look at my widefield data - I've been working on the shed all daylight hours since arriving home (including day off work on Monday).

Mark
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 09, 2013, 05:52:25
DSC by day and night.  The night exposure was 2 minutes at ISO 800

(http://www.markshelley.co.uk/Astronomy/2013/6apr2013day.jpg)

(http://www.markshelley.co.uk/Astronomy/2013/6apr2013night.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Tony G on Apr 09, 2013, 07:00:42
 :o

Was it brighter at night!!!!!!!!!! :o

Tony G
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on Apr 09, 2013, 07:45:55

Forgot to say that we obtained a sky quality meter reading of 20.8 both nights, which is not at all bad.

Mark
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 08:31:23
Nice comet Mike, I don't think the "cock ups" have done much harm.


I miss DSCs  :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 09, 2013, 10:22:50
Quote from: MarkS on Apr 09, 2013, 05:36:30
You said you guided on the comet's head - did you notice any movement against the star background at that scale?

Only slightly. I only got 7 x 30 seconds so in just over 3.5 minutes it would not have moved that much against the background stars.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 09, 2013, 10:33:01
Quote from: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 08:31:23
I miss DSCs  :(

So get your arse into gear and start coming again then!!

How long have you been in that house now?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 10:46:43
Just over a year and the only astro related image is a bloody sunset  :!

:cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 09, 2013, 11:00:15
I think it's well over a year. Surely your campervan is cleared out by now?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 14:06:48
Quote from: Mike on Apr 09, 2013, 11:00:15
I think it's well over a year. Surely your campervan is cleared out by now?

Hmm, that could explain why I still can't find stuff  :oops:

Been here a year to the day of the february meeting and the last DSC I went to would have been in 2011  :(
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on Apr 09, 2013, 15:49:44
Quote from: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 14:06:48
Been here a year to the day of the february meeting and the last DSC I went to would have been in 2011  :(

Shocking!!

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on Apr 09, 2013, 16:04:23
Stoppit  :P

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on May 01, 2013, 12:01:12
when is the next DSC?
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: MarkS on May 01, 2013, 12:35:16
June.

But nothing prevents a uDSC in May.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Fay on May 01, 2013, 12:41:30
Oh good. Was worried it was this weekend and not prepared.
Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on May 01, 2013, 12:48:50
Fay...

http://forum.orpington-astronomy.org.uk/index.php?topic=8800.0

As Mark said, nothing stopping a uDSC being organised. Full Moon is on the 10th May so the weekend of the 10th-12th May would be best.

Mike

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: mickw on May 01, 2013, 13:15:29
QuoteFull Moon is on the 10th May

Er - New Moon

Actually the moon won't be rising until around 2:30 on this Friday and obviously getting progressively later

Title: Re: Deep Sky Camp - 5th to 7th April
Post by: Mike on May 01, 2013, 14:03:00
Yeah - should be New Moon.  :roll: