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Astronomy => Astrophotography => Topic started by: Carole on Sep 29, 2014, 19:22:45

Title: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB now with Oiii added
Post by: Carole on Sep 29, 2014, 19:22:45
(For Oiii added scroll down to 21/10/2014)
Tried to get the skirt on this.  Ran out of time before it disappeared behind a tree.  Not much colour, will have to add to later on.

Ha 2 x 30mins & 2 x 20 mins
RGB 2 x 15mins binned x 2

Skywatcher ED120 and Atik314L
NEQ6
Captured in Artemis, stacked in AA and processed in Registar and Photoshop

(http://cdn.astrobin.com/images/thumbs/8e7b9d9c8b0cce2d20e1141d1b33ac50.1824x0_q100_watermark.jpg)
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: MarkH on Sep 29, 2014, 21:01:34
Ooooo very good Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: RobertM on Sep 29, 2014, 21:35:18
Looking really good Carole, part of the skirt too !  Bit of blue fringing around the brighter stars but it certainly looks to me like one of your best images to date.

Robert
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Mike on Sep 29, 2014, 21:37:37
Nice image Carole. However, your stars are still weird colours. Lots of orange stars that should be white. It's teh same on lots of your other images too.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Sep 29, 2014, 22:34:59
Thanks Robert and Mark.

Dunno why that happens Mike, but I did stretch the colour on this one a bit trying to bring out any possible colour in the skirt.  All I can do is combine the filters and see what comes out.  If you have any suggestions or solutions I'd be glad to hear them.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Mike on Sep 30, 2014, 00:29:08
My guess is you are not weighting the filters as in giving 33% to each one instead of balancing them correctly.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: MarkS on Sep 30, 2014, 01:15:26
Beautiful image!  You are definitely on a roll.

The skirt is coming out well and the stars have good colour.  Overall its very nicely processed.  One of your best.

Mark
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Sep 30, 2014, 08:21:11
Thanks Mark. 

QuoteMy guess is you are not weighting the filters as in giving 33%
Bit puzzled over the balancing the filters Mike, as I did equal amounts for each colour, I am sure most people do a lot more Lum or Ha to RGB to give it the detail:
QuoteRGB 2 x 15mins binned x 2

I guess I'll find the answer one day.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Ivor on Sep 30, 2014, 12:38:39
Great image, I love the detail you've pulled out.

Regarding star colour, I wonder if it is a monitor calibration issue (perhaps not just your screen as well), I recall a previous image of yours I saw a rectangle in the background which you couldn't see until you heavily stretch the image. I find the difference in colours between the monitors in the office and my laptop which I've calibrated can be significant. Looking at the white stars from the office screen your white stars look blue which highlights the point.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Sep 30, 2014, 13:03:10
Thanks Ivor.

Well I did my processing on 3 of my images actually at Kelling on my laptop, I haven't noticed any difference since I have been home. 

I still have a 4th one to process.  I did process it at Kelling but I have some more data at home to add to it which wasn't on my laptop.

I am sure you are right Ivor, I seem to recall having done a monitor calibration when I first got this desktop a few months ago.  Maybe it's other people's monitors that are showing things up which don't show on mine.  I know when Mike shows members images at the meetings they look quite different sometimes disappointingly so and I think he uses his Mac.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: The Thing on Sep 30, 2014, 18:26:39
Looking really good Carole. More data!!!!!
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Sep 30, 2014, 19:09:12
Thanks Duncan

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Mike on Oct 01, 2014, 13:26:16
Quote from: Ivor on Sep 30, 2014, 12:38:39
Regarding star colour, I wonder if it is a monitor calibration issue (perhaps not just your screen as well), I recall a previous image of yours I saw a rectangle in the background which you couldn't see until you heavily stretch the image. I find the difference in colours between the monitors in the office and my laptop which I've calibrated can be significant. Looking at the white stars from the office screen your white stars look blue which highlights the point.

Yeah the larger 'white' stars look violet to me, on my work laptop, home laptop, home PC, etc. and all of the smaller stars in the background look a rusty orange kind of colour. It doesn't look right at all.

Apart from that though the image overall is great with lovely details on the extended shell.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Fay on Oct 01, 2014, 14:35:26
Very nice Dumb bell Carole. definitely one of your best!

Fay
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Oct 01, 2014, 18:13:11
Thanks Fay.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Oct 01, 2014, 23:57:03
Following a comment made on another forum I realised that I might have done something wrong in the processing so I have re-added the ha to the red channel which is what I thought I had done in the first place, also seems I should plan to add some Oiii to this at some point in the future, I had thought the colour had come from RGB, so good lesson learnt :

(http://cdn.astrobin.com/images/thumbs/ead2930f77072d80164cf45b356e04e9.1824x0_q100_watermark.jpg)
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: MarkS on Oct 02, 2014, 19:27:36
Much better!

That's really looking good now.  Well done.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Oct 02, 2014, 19:53:48
Thanks Mark,

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Fay on Oct 02, 2014, 20:09:06
Very good Carole!
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB
Post by: Carole on Oct 02, 2014, 21:52:25
Thanks Fay.  It's a constant learning curve.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB Now HaOiiiRGB
Post by: Carole on Oct 21, 2014, 01:03:24
Now with Oiii added despite the planes at Cairds last night.
Oiii 5 x 1200secs binned x 2 but this time using my ED80 and Focal reducer x0.8 still with the Atik314L

(http://cdn.astrobin.com/images/thumbs/f834ed32d0674fdbb5be1525df54db3a.1824x0_q100_watermark.jpg)
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB now with Oiii added
Post by: MarkS on Oct 21, 2014, 19:58:18
Looking very good!
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB now with Oiii added
Post by: Carole on Oct 21, 2014, 22:17:30
Thank you Mark.

Carole
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB now with Oiii added
Post by: Ivor on Oct 21, 2014, 23:04:57
Looks great now, you are really putting out some great images at the moment.
Title: Re: Dumbbell Nebula HaRGB now with Oiii added
Post by: Carole on Oct 22, 2014, 00:09:55
Thanks Ivor very kind. 

Carole